encourage economic growth at the same time. what things would i cut from spending? well, first of all i will eliminate all programs by this test, if they don't pass it. is the program so critical it's worth borrowing money from china to pay for it? if not i'll get rid of it. obamacare is on my list, i apologize mr. president, i use that term with all respect. >> i like it. >> okay, good. >> pelley: and tonight the president endorsed the term obamacare which republicans have used as a pejorativive the all this time but the president embraced it tonight. what did you make of those kinds of scenes, john, where the two candidates were really going straight at each other? >> coming out of this debate there's going to be a big long discussion about specifics. what the president was saying is governor romney is making all of these claims, he's going to do all kinds of things and what he's not telling you is the specifics. and that's what he was trying to say there is that it just doesn't add up. in the context of this debate, though, governor romney was saying, no i've got very specific things i'm going to do.